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		<title>By: redleader9999</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2014 20:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you just get better and better Denis, thank you for that
Carcassonne

I&#039;ll  keep viewing and login the interesting bits - I&#039;ve until Auust &#039;15 to et sorted

cheers Denis</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you just get better and better Denis, thank you for that<br />
Carcassonne</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll  keep viewing and login the interesting bits &#8211; I&#8217;ve until Auust &#8217;15 to et sorted</p>
<p>cheers Denis</p>
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		<title>By: gpsroutes</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2014 11:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Graeme,

Amazon sometimes have good deal on the Drift cams, every time they produce a new cam the price on older models get much more interesting..

As for a no-go area in the Pyrenees region that&#039;s easy - Andorra! Even 14 years ago it was a bit of a dump, now it&#039;s far worse mostly due to high levels of traffic. Plenty of bikers head to Andorra thinking it&#039;s the highlight of the Pyrenees, trust me - it&#039;s not! The area has become really built up over the last 10 years and is now a complete pain to get through in summer, in winter it&#039;s just a massive ski resort. It&#039;s also a duty free zone which might sound great - until you join the queues at the border controls. My advice is don&#039;t bother going anywhere near Andorra - unless you want to go off-road, but even then you got to be careful unless you have a local guide that speaks Spanish as you can meet armed border guards &quot;Guardia Civil&quot; even on a seemingly deserted mountain and especially in the middle of no where. 

As for a list of passes not pleasant to ride well thats a tough one, beauty is in the eye of the beholder and all that, also what type of biking you&#039;re into etc. But here are a list of my favorite cols/ports starting from east to west and in no particular order as I love &#039;em all.. This is of course only the tip of the iceberg as there are so many great roads that wind up into the Pyrenees that dead end at ski resorts. Then on the Spanish side there are loads of amazing canyons and roads that aren&#039;t even on any maps, especially in the national parks like the Bardenas Real south west of Pamplona. I&#039;ve been riding the Pyrenees for years and I&#039;ve still plenty of exploring to do so forget about seeing it all in one trip :) 
Check out my &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0AUeDLAb3AXfcoUS4sTBlQUjwXF60UV9&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;YouTube Channel&lt;/a&gt; as I&#039;ve got many of these passes on there and I&#039;ll be uploading more soon..
 
Col d&#039;Orgambidé
Col d&#039;Haritzcurutche
Col de BurdinKurutcheta
Col d&#039;Orgambidesca
Port de Larrau
Col de la Pierre St Martin
Col d&#039;Aubisque
Cirque de Troumouse

Col du Tourmalet
Col de Bielsa
Col d&#039;Agnes
Port de Lers

Enjoy,
Denis</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Graeme,</p>
<p>Amazon sometimes have good deal on the Drift cams, every time they produce a new cam the price on older models get much more interesting..</p>
<p>As for a no-go area in the Pyrenees region that&#8217;s easy &#8211; Andorra! Even 14 years ago it was a bit of a dump, now it&#8217;s far worse mostly due to high levels of traffic. Plenty of bikers head to Andorra thinking it&#8217;s the highlight of the Pyrenees, trust me &#8211; it&#8217;s not! The area has become really built up over the last 10 years and is now a complete pain to get through in summer, in winter it&#8217;s just a massive ski resort. It&#8217;s also a duty free zone which might sound great &#8211; until you join the queues at the border controls. My advice is don&#8217;t bother going anywhere near Andorra &#8211; unless you want to go off-road, but even then you got to be careful unless you have a local guide that speaks Spanish as you can meet armed border guards &#8220;Guardia Civil&#8221; even on a seemingly deserted mountain and especially in the middle of no where. </p>
<p>As for a list of passes not pleasant to ride well thats a tough one, beauty is in the eye of the beholder and all that, also what type of biking you&#8217;re into etc. But here are a list of my favorite cols/ports starting from east to west and in no particular order as I love &#8216;em all.. This is of course only the tip of the iceberg as there are so many great roads that wind up into the Pyrenees that dead end at ski resorts. Then on the Spanish side there are loads of amazing canyons and roads that aren&#8217;t even on any maps, especially in the national parks like the Bardenas Real south west of Pamplona. I&#8217;ve been riding the Pyrenees for years and I&#8217;ve still plenty of exploring to do so forget about seeing it all in one trip <img src='http://www.roadtrooper.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Check out my <a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0AUeDLAb3AXfcoUS4sTBlQUjwXF60UV9" rel="nofollow">YouTube Channel</a> as I&#8217;ve got many of these passes on there and I&#8217;ll be uploading more soon..</p>
<p>Col d&#8217;Orgambidé<br />
Col d&#8217;Haritzcurutche<br />
Col de BurdinKurutcheta<br />
Col d&#8217;Orgambidesca<br />
Port de Larrau<br />
Col de la Pierre St Martin<br />
Col d&#8217;Aubisque<br />
Cirque de Troumouse</p>
<p>Col du Tourmalet<br />
Col de Bielsa<br />
Col d&#8217;Agnes<br />
Port de Lers</p>
<p>Enjoy,<br />
Denis</p>
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		<title>By: redleader9999</title>
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		<dc:creator>redleader9999</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2014 21:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Denis

I&#039;m off to the NEC in November so I&#039;m sure there must be some deals to be had :-)

Keep these routes coming - the Pyrenees needs exploring if only by me!

Are the any &quot;no go&quot; area ?  as in places that should be avoided at all costs r ones that just aren&#039;t pleasant to ride?

What would you say in your opinion, would be the top 5 or even 10, Cols?

Thanks again - you really are superb at what you do!!!   :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Denis</p>
<p>I&#8217;m off to the NEC in November so I&#8217;m sure there must be some deals to be had <img src='http://www.roadtrooper.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Keep these routes coming &#8211; the Pyrenees needs exploring if only by me!</p>
<p>Are the any &#8220;no go&#8221; area ?  as in places that should be avoided at all costs r ones that just aren&#8217;t pleasant to ride?</p>
<p>What would you say in your opinion, would be the top 5 or even 10, Cols?</p>
<p>Thanks again &#8211; you really are superb at what you do!!!   <img src='http://www.roadtrooper.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: gpsroutes</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2014 19:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Graeme,

I&#039;m using the Drift HD 170 which I attach to the bike and the Drift HD Ghost (a smaller cam) which I stick to the side of my helmet with a bit of heavy duty velcro... ;)
&lt;a href=&quot;http://driftinnovation.com/drift-ghost/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://driftinnovation.com/drift-ghost/&lt;/a&gt;

Denis</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Graeme,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m using the Drift HD 170 which I attach to the bike and the Drift HD Ghost (a smaller cam) which I stick to the side of my helmet with a bit of heavy duty velcro&#8230; <img src='http://www.roadtrooper.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
<a href="http://driftinnovation.com/drift-ghost/" rel="nofollow">http://driftinnovation.com/drift-ghost/</a></p>
<p>Denis</p>
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		<title>By: redleader9999</title>
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		<dc:creator>redleader9999</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2014 18:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Denis

I&#039;d just like to ask what camera do you film all your tours with?  I may have missed it in which I&#039;m obviously not very observant!

Thank you for providing some brilliant footage and can&#039;t wait until August 15 for 2+ glorious weeks

Certainly whetted my appetite !!

Graeme</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Denis</p>
<p>I&#8217;d just like to ask what camera do you film all your tours with?  I may have missed it in which I&#8217;m obviously not very observant!</p>
<p>Thank you for providing some brilliant footage and can&#8217;t wait until August 15 for 2+ glorious weeks</p>
<p>Certainly whetted my appetite !!</p>
<p>Graeme</p>
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		<title>By: gpsroutes</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2014 12:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You copy as may routes as you like there Mark, no shame involved lol... I&#039;m actually just back from the Pyrenees and Chap Bleu, I was up there checking out a few new roads east of Saint-Beat. I&#039;ll be uploading the routes as soon as I&#039;ve written up this years trip report. So check back after thats done as I&#039;ll have a few suggestions for you to ride and perfect for the RT.

If you want to pick my brains feel free, happy to help. Be warned though next May I&#039;m planning to be back on the road early in the month so get in touch before that to be sure I&#039;ll be able to reply. When I&#039;m on the road I like to go back to basics and completly detach myself from TV, Radio, News, FaceBook, Internet, Computer, Mobile Phones, Smart Phones, Ipads this website - the lot, It&#039;ll be just me, the bike and the road, even my wife will have trouble contacting me lol ;)

Denis</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You copy as may routes as you like there Mark, no shame involved lol&#8230; I&#8217;m actually just back from the Pyrenees and Chap Bleu, I was up there checking out a few new roads east of Saint-Beat. I&#8217;ll be uploading the routes as soon as I&#8217;ve written up this years trip report. So check back after thats done as I&#8217;ll have a few suggestions for you to ride and perfect for the RT.</p>
<p>If you want to pick my brains feel free, happy to help. Be warned though next May I&#8217;m planning to be back on the road early in the month so get in touch before that to be sure I&#8217;ll be able to reply. When I&#8217;m on the road I like to go back to basics and completly detach myself from TV, Radio, News, FaceBook, Internet, Computer, Mobile Phones, Smart Phones, Ipads this website &#8211; the lot, It&#8217;ll be just me, the bike and the road, even my wife will have trouble contacting me lol <img src='http://www.roadtrooper.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Denis</p>
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		<title>By: Meanderlight</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meanderlight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2014 08:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi

Fortuitously I found you site with its wonderful descriptions of the Pyrenees only this week. The week I&#039;ve happened to book my RT, the wife and myself on the Santander ferry for June next year for a 2 or 3 week tour. 

I&#039;ve shamelessly copied a number of routes and also booked myself into Chalet le Chapeau Bleu for a few nights at your recommendation. 

Nearer the time I may pick your brains some more advice :-)

Regards Mark (from sunny Cornwall)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi</p>
<p>Fortuitously I found you site with its wonderful descriptions of the Pyrenees only this week. The week I&#8217;ve happened to book my RT, the wife and myself on the Santander ferry for June next year for a 2 or 3 week tour. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve shamelessly copied a number of routes and also booked myself into Chalet le Chapeau Bleu for a few nights at your recommendation. </p>
<p>Nearer the time I may pick your brains some more advice <img src='http://www.roadtrooper.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Regards Mark (from sunny Cornwall)</p>
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		<title>By: neilsdeal</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2013 19:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep that&#039;s roughly how i had interpreted it reading through the endless waffle on the internet.
Think we will go for the intercom as the one we have in mind have speakers that fit inside the helmet and also have vox facility ( weather it works on the bikes is to be seen ) so in theory you don&#039;t need to take your hands of the reigns.
I have emailed the Spanish tourist board to see if they can advise where we are allowed to ride off road failing that we will just follow our noses if we get busted and fined then lesson learnt ( the hard way ).
Anyway its all part of the adventure.
Thanks again for all your advice and will update you on our return. 
Cheers
Neil</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep that&#8217;s roughly how i had interpreted it reading through the endless waffle on the internet.<br />
Think we will go for the intercom as the one we have in mind have speakers that fit inside the helmet and also have vox facility ( weather it works on the bikes is to be seen ) so in theory you don&#8217;t need to take your hands of the reigns.<br />
I have emailed the Spanish tourist board to see if they can advise where we are allowed to ride off road failing that we will just follow our noses if we get busted and fined then lesson learnt ( the hard way ).<br />
Anyway its all part of the adventure.<br />
Thanks again for all your advice and will update you on our return.<br />
Cheers<br />
Neil</p>
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		<title>By: gpsroutes</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2013 18:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Neil,

I&#039;m not going to say that intercoms are definitely legal or not as the tossers in Brussels keep coming up with new and increasingly bloody ridiculous laws every couple of days. That said if intercoms are illegal in Spain or elsewhere it&#039;s the first I&#039;ve heard of it! Especially as the bike dealers in Spain are selling them! 

I think there may be a little confusion here over in-ear earphones and the actual use of intercoms and SatNavs while riding! In Spain &quot;in-ear&quot; earphones are illegal, or at least it&#039;s a 90€ fine if you&#039;re caught wearing them while connected to an mp3 player as they are regarded as distracting to the rider. So, any bike-to-bike intercom system that uses &quot;in-ear&quot; earphones are illegal, but if it uses speakers fitted within the helmet thats fine.

Speakers fitted within a helmet&#039;s padding are legal, so for example you can have a Bluetooth device (Scala Rider) connected to the speakers so you can listen to your mate commenting on the semi clothed hookers working the roadside or listening to directions from a SatNav. However it&#039;s illegal to operate/adjust ( i.e. press any buttons) a SatNav or intercom while riding a motorcycle. 

I have, as yet to hear of any cops anywhere enforcing this as it&#039;s almost impossible to police and I think most cops have better things to be doing anyway. I was stopped by the Guardia Civil 3 or 4 times last year and each time I had in-ear Bluetooth earphones in and they did not seem to care. Either way it&#039;s always a good idea to carry a couple of hundred euro in cash just in case you are unlucky enough to get caught and have a cop enforce this rule.

So, to be clear - it is technically illegal to take your hand off the handlebar of a moving motorcycle to adjust a SatNav or an intercom attached to the side of your helmet, the argument being that you are not in full control of the motorcycle. To turn on/off or adjust the volume of the Scala Rider system for example you need to pull over and stop to do so. This is fair enough and probably common sense, a lot like useing a hands free kit for using a mobile phone while driving a car. However, EU legislation is coming to ban all use of phones, hands free or not while driving, how this will affect intercoms remains to be seen, but they will probably become illegal at some stage.

The traffic laws in Spain are very difficult to give advice on. For the most part all common traffic laws are EU based, but the problem in Spain is that Spain is made up of autonomous states, regions like Murcia, Valencia, Catalonia, Navarre, Castile etc all have slightly different regional laws and their own governments under the central Castile government in Madrid. Even the fines differ from region to region! It&#039;s impossible for a tourist to know each regions specific laws and the cops understand this and will usually ignore infringements like these &quot;if&quot; you are not also driving dangerously like over the speed limit!

Either way, dont be worried. Have extra cash in the unlikely event you do get fined, just use your common sense and ride with the intention of arriving home with your &quot;fine&quot; money intact :)
Hope this helps..

Denis</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Neil,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not going to say that intercoms are definitely legal or not as the tossers in Brussels keep coming up with new and increasingly bloody ridiculous laws every couple of days. That said if intercoms are illegal in Spain or elsewhere it&#8217;s the first I&#8217;ve heard of it! Especially as the bike dealers in Spain are selling them! </p>
<p>I think there may be a little confusion here over in-ear earphones and the actual use of intercoms and SatNavs while riding! In Spain &#8220;in-ear&#8221; earphones are illegal, or at least it&#8217;s a 90€ fine if you&#8217;re caught wearing them while connected to an mp3 player as they are regarded as distracting to the rider. So, any bike-to-bike intercom system that uses &#8220;in-ear&#8221; earphones are illegal, but if it uses speakers fitted within the helmet thats fine.</p>
<p>Speakers fitted within a helmet&#8217;s padding are legal, so for example you can have a Bluetooth device (Scala Rider) connected to the speakers so you can listen to your mate commenting on the semi clothed hookers working the roadside or listening to directions from a SatNav. However it&#8217;s illegal to operate/adjust ( i.e. press any buttons) a SatNav or intercom while riding a motorcycle. </p>
<p>I have, as yet to hear of any cops anywhere enforcing this as it&#8217;s almost impossible to police and I think most cops have better things to be doing anyway. I was stopped by the Guardia Civil 3 or 4 times last year and each time I had in-ear Bluetooth earphones in and they did not seem to care. Either way it&#8217;s always a good idea to carry a couple of hundred euro in cash just in case you are unlucky enough to get caught and have a cop enforce this rule.</p>
<p>So, to be clear &#8211; it is technically illegal to take your hand off the handlebar of a moving motorcycle to adjust a SatNav or an intercom attached to the side of your helmet, the argument being that you are not in full control of the motorcycle. To turn on/off or adjust the volume of the Scala Rider system for example you need to pull over and stop to do so. This is fair enough and probably common sense, a lot like useing a hands free kit for using a mobile phone while driving a car. However, EU legislation is coming to ban all use of phones, hands free or not while driving, how this will affect intercoms remains to be seen, but they will probably become illegal at some stage.</p>
<p>The traffic laws in Spain are very difficult to give advice on. For the most part all common traffic laws are EU based, but the problem in Spain is that Spain is made up of autonomous states, regions like Murcia, Valencia, Catalonia, Navarre, Castile etc all have slightly different regional laws and their own governments under the central Castile government in Madrid. Even the fines differ from region to region! It&#8217;s impossible for a tourist to know each regions specific laws and the cops understand this and will usually ignore infringements like these &#8220;if&#8221; you are not also driving dangerously like over the speed limit!</p>
<p>Either way, dont be worried. Have extra cash in the unlikely event you do get fined, just use your common sense and ride with the intention of arriving home with your &#8220;fine&#8221; money intact <img src='http://www.roadtrooper.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Hope this helps..</p>
<p>Denis</p>
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		<title>By: neilsdeal</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2013 08:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, thanks for all the info will take it all on board and will try and give the Guardia a wide berth if possible.
Just one more question ( sorry bet you get tired of answering questions from touring virgins )  we are looking at fitting bike to bike intercoms just for the crack while riding ie &quot; look at the tits on that &quot;  but have read elsewhere they are illegal do you know the law on this.
Many thanks for your help and i will try my best to find to nice trails for you to explore.
Thanks 
Neil</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, thanks for all the info will take it all on board and will try and give the Guardia a wide berth if possible.<br />
Just one more question ( sorry bet you get tired of answering questions from touring virgins )  we are looking at fitting bike to bike intercoms just for the crack while riding ie &#8221; look at the tits on that &#8221;  but have read elsewhere they are illegal do you know the law on this.<br />
Many thanks for your help and i will try my best to find to nice trails for you to explore.<br />
Thanks<br />
Neil</p>
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		<title>By: gpsroutes</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2013 17:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Neil, Sounds like you have a great trip planned..

First off, you’re going to have to put your indicators and mirrors back on as they wont be street legal in Spain without them. I doubt if you would make it past customs before you get you’re bikes impounded, and even if you did the Guardia Civil will bankrupt you with cash on the spot fines out on the road.

As for the hi-vis, you don’t need to wear one but you do need one and must wear it if you break down or get a puncture etc and need to stand on the side of a road or motorway. You will also need spare bulbs and fuses but you do not need to carry a warning triangle, that’s only for cars etc..

You will definetly need; Passport, spare cash for on the spot fines, insurance, road tax, registration docs etc. I&#039;ve more info on this and riding in Spain tips here &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.roadtrooper.com/a-virgins-touring-guide/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;A Virgin&#039;s Touring Guide&lt;/a&gt;

If your going to take in some off roading in the Navarre region etc you must be able to carry plenty of extra water as it can get seriously hot (30C+) and extra fuel if your bikes tank range is under 270km, if you break down or run out of fuel in the remote areas of the parks you&#039;re in big trouble. If you have a laser card &lt;strong&gt;DO NOT&lt;/strong&gt; use it for buying petrol in France or Spain, use only a credit card, but cash is better.

The weather on the French side can be very different from the hot/dry Spanish side especially on the Atlantic coast which has frequent torrential downpours (May/June) so ye might want to take rain gear.

There are plenty of speed and drink driving checks on the Spanish side, even in the middle of nowhere and the fines are cruel. Stick to the speed limits and watch your drinking in the evenings and you will have a blast. The roads on the Spanish side are better, but on DR605’s I don’t think you will care what type of road your on ;)

If you can you should visit the Spanish tourist board offices in the UK or online to get more info on the Pyrenees national parks, in many areas it’s prohibited to use motorbikes on the trails. But there are plenty that you can and even cross the French/Spanish boarders via these tracks/trails which you will love. Just be careful, there are bears and wolves in those hills ;)

I’m planning to get back down there this year myself on a F800GS to find some of these trails. If you find any good ones yourself be sure to let me know so I can upload them for others to find..

Hope this helps, let us know how the trip went when you get back..  

Denis</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Neil, Sounds like you have a great trip planned..</p>
<p>First off, you’re going to have to put your indicators and mirrors back on as they wont be street legal in Spain without them. I doubt if you would make it past customs before you get you’re bikes impounded, and even if you did the Guardia Civil will bankrupt you with cash on the spot fines out on the road.</p>
<p>As for the hi-vis, you don’t need to wear one but you do need one and must wear it if you break down or get a puncture etc and need to stand on the side of a road or motorway. You will also need spare bulbs and fuses but you do not need to carry a warning triangle, that’s only for cars etc..</p>
<p>You will definetly need; Passport, spare cash for on the spot fines, insurance, road tax, registration docs etc. I&#8217;ve more info on this and riding in Spain tips here <a href="http://www.roadtrooper.com/a-virgins-touring-guide/" rel="nofollow">A Virgin&#8217;s Touring Guide</a></p>
<p>If your going to take in some off roading in the Navarre region etc you must be able to carry plenty of extra water as it can get seriously hot (30C+) and extra fuel if your bikes tank range is under 270km, if you break down or run out of fuel in the remote areas of the parks you&#8217;re in big trouble. If you have a laser card <strong>DO NOT</strong> use it for buying petrol in France or Spain, use only a credit card, but cash is better.</p>
<p>The weather on the French side can be very different from the hot/dry Spanish side especially on the Atlantic coast which has frequent torrential downpours (May/June) so ye might want to take rain gear.</p>
<p>There are plenty of speed and drink driving checks on the Spanish side, even in the middle of nowhere and the fines are cruel. Stick to the speed limits and watch your drinking in the evenings and you will have a blast. The roads on the Spanish side are better, but on DR605’s I don’t think you will care what type of road your on <img src='http://www.roadtrooper.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>If you can you should visit the Spanish tourist board offices in the UK or online to get more info on the Pyrenees national parks, in many areas it’s prohibited to use motorbikes on the trails. But there are plenty that you can and even cross the French/Spanish boarders via these tracks/trails which you will love. Just be careful, there are bears and wolves in those hills <img src='http://www.roadtrooper.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I’m planning to get back down there this year myself on a F800GS to find some of these trails. If you find any good ones yourself be sure to let me know so I can upload them for others to find..</p>
<p>Hope this helps, let us know how the trip went when you get back..  </p>
<p>Denis</p>
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		<title>By: neilsdeal</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 20:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Denis
just signed up on your site and spent the last 2 hours reading and looking at amazing pics WOW great site.
Anyway me and an friend are going on our 1st trip abroad on our bikes (after a long time talking about it) we have finally booked it Portsmouth to Bilbo, sail last week in June 7days touring the Pryenees then back to Bilbo and home.
We both have Suzuki DR650se enduro style bikes and i was just wondering if you knew the laws regarding wing mirrors and indicators abroad as we use our bikes for off roading as well as runs to the coast therefore we have neither of these fitted as they don&#039;t last long when your thumping round old quarry&#039;s through the trees.
Also i have read allsorts regarding what we need to carry ie, hi-viz,bulbs,etc the only one i am not sure about is the warning triangle do you need one on a bike.
I have booked a first nights digs in Arrens-Marsous and planned the route along through Pamplona -N240-Jaca-A136 then on the 918 that you mention on your Pryenees tour WOW again that sounds like an epic road and will be looking forward to that. 
After that we will just be playing it by ear we have a rough idea where were going but nothing set in stone and will be looking for campsites as we go hopefully we are planning to go all the way across to the east coast and back again but things may change.
Any tips or advice you could give would be great.
Many thanks
Neil</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Denis<br />
just signed up on your site and spent the last 2 hours reading and looking at amazing pics WOW great site.<br />
Anyway me and an friend are going on our 1st trip abroad on our bikes (after a long time talking about it) we have finally booked it Portsmouth to Bilbo, sail last week in June 7days touring the Pryenees then back to Bilbo and home.<br />
We both have Suzuki DR650se enduro style bikes and i was just wondering if you knew the laws regarding wing mirrors and indicators abroad as we use our bikes for off roading as well as runs to the coast therefore we have neither of these fitted as they don&#8217;t last long when your thumping round old quarry&#8217;s through the trees.<br />
Also i have read allsorts regarding what we need to carry ie, hi-viz,bulbs,etc the only one i am not sure about is the warning triangle do you need one on a bike.<br />
I have booked a first nights digs in Arrens-Marsous and planned the route along through Pamplona -N240-Jaca-A136 then on the 918 that you mention on your Pryenees tour WOW again that sounds like an epic road and will be looking forward to that.<br />
After that we will just be playing it by ear we have a rough idea where were going but nothing set in stone and will be looking for campsites as we go hopefully we are planning to go all the way across to the east coast and back again but things may change.<br />
Any tips or advice you could give would be great.<br />
Many thanks<br />
Neil</p>
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		<title>By: gpsroutes</title>
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		<dc:creator>gpsroutes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 16:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Tony,

What can I say, you have the perfect tool for the job with the RT and you&#039;re going to love it. Both sides of the border are fantastic with the roads on the Spanish side the best, smooth and winding - just perfect for the RT. 

I&#039;ll have another post up next week with more info on the area, with more routes and plenty of videos to come on the YT channel.

I&#039;m sure you will have a blast :)

Safe riding, 
Denis</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tony,</p>
<p>What can I say, you have the perfect tool for the job with the RT and you&#8217;re going to love it. Both sides of the border are fantastic with the roads on the Spanish side the best, smooth and winding &#8211; just perfect for the RT. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll have another post up next week with more info on the area, with more routes and plenty of videos to come on the YT channel.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure you will have a blast <img src='http://www.roadtrooper.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Safe riding,<br />
Denis</p>
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		<title>By: Tony23</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 08:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Denis

We`re booked in to Chapeau Bleu for 7 nights end of July this year so your report and routes are perfect timing for us.After that a ride down to Barcelona for 4 nights (keeps the wife happy :-)  ) then back to Santander.
2012 rt with wife as Pillion and really looking forward to it. We stayed in Briancon last year and followed your recomendations for the Mont Prorel and had a great stay.


Tony.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Denis</p>
<p>We`re booked in to Chapeau Bleu for 7 nights end of July this year so your report and routes are perfect timing for us.After that a ride down to Barcelona for 4 nights (keeps the wife happy <img src='http://www.roadtrooper.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   ) then back to Santander.<br />
2012 rt with wife as Pillion and really looking forward to it. We stayed in Briancon last year and followed your recomendations for the Mont Prorel and had a great stay.</p>
<p>Tony.</p>
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